't burnt down or robbed around them. in the area of los angeles, the only businesses that survived were they had these weapons on their rooftops. and the looters, the rioters, the arsonists, went elsewhere. there's a good reason. i watched it on your network. >> you may have seen on my network, the coverage of the aurora shooting. james holmes, the killer there, had four weapons. he also bought 6,000 rounds of ammunition on the internet. he was armed to the teeth. and he had protective gear on him, which is also what happened with jacob roberts in oregon. they planned this meticulously. and they went in with these rif rifles. and had the weapon not jammed in the mall yesterday, we could be looking at a death toll higher than what happened in aurora. i say to you, why do people in america, outside of the military and the police, need to have the ability to have an ar-15? i don't understand. >> well, i just gave you one example in the l.a. riots. >> you're saying, if there's a riot -- a riot 20 years ago. you're talking about a riot 20 years ago, as being the only reason -- the only reaso
